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Previously on UFO

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Previously on UFO witness, the investigation uncovered potential evidence of a deep sea alien base.

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At one point they turned into half circles.

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What is this?

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With alarming numbers of UFO sightings across the country, could different species of aliens be laying claim to the United States?

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It's been going on for a long time and slowly getting worse and worse.

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There's reason to believe the strange creatures on board do not come in peace.

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They're the star people.

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He said when I come with him and I didn't want him.

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Could an alien race known as the star people have a stranglehold on America's Northwest?

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I'm going to find out.

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So I've never been this far in Idaho before.

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Me neither.

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It's very very remote here and also it gets stranger.

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The skies of remote northern Idaho have been plagued by fireball UFOs for decades.

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and the other two.

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Then, Melissa and Ben have come to investigate.

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There have been so many reports just even lately.

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A lot of those dealt with sort of fireballs.

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Whatever it is, is flying over the state.

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There are Native American reservations here,

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which seems to have a relationship to activity.

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My thought process is, if there's a big uptick in UFO activity,

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and has been, I wonder if there's been

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UFO activity happening for thousands of years.

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The indigenous tribes of North America have a long history

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with the alien species they call the star people.

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And a previous investigation brought Ben face to face

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with one of their victims.

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Hello.

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Hikariah Apache Elder, Jerry Julian.

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At my house at night, I woke up while it was dark in my room.

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Two small people, they were trying to pull me off the bed,

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and I couldn't scream.

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I was holding onto the mattress down here,

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and they were trying to pull me off.

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And then my husband let me move, and then they let me go.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Could these star people be connected to the fireball UFOs

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spotted with increasing frequency in northern Idaho?

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Could they be the ones responsible for the rise in abductions?

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I have a witness who's been seeing strange things in the sky here all her life.

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She tells me that she has a couple of experiences that she'd like to share.

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She's lived in the area for quite some time,

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and her house is actually right on the lake.

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And this is where I think she had one of her principal experiences.

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Now in her early days, she's been living in a house

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that she's been living in for quite some time.

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And she's been seeing some of her principal experiences.

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Now in her early 80s, Dale has lived on Lake Pondarray,

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the epicenter of the region's UFO activity her entire life.

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Thank you for having us here.

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I hear what's been going on.

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It's quite strange.

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Oh, yes.

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Yes.

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Dale reports that she's witnessed both fireball UFOs and the star people

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since she was five years old.

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For decades, the encounters were little more than benign sightings,

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but later in life, they've become aggressive.

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Now she lives in dread of their return.

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My husband and I were in the living room watching TV.

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It's about 11 o'clock at night.

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Out of nowhere, Dale gets an eerie sensation.

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I just felt concerned.

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I've been seeing these since I was a child.

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And my theory is they wanted to hurt us.

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Despite concerns for her safety,

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Dale felt drawn to the window unnaturally.

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It was kind of scary.

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See this very bright light coming over the mountain?

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White and very, very bright.

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It's probably 300 or 400 feet out from that mountain.

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We didn't actually see what shape it was,

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but the light itself was quite large.

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So we start watching it,

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and it gets up above the mountain

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and then hovers for a short time,

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maybe three or four minutes.

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And then it suddenly dives down the front of the mountain

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and into the water.

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We thought, wow, maybe that's a UFO.

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There's no sound, and we can't see any splash at night,

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and it just kind of disappeared.

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Did it come back out of the water?

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No, and we were watching it probably several hours

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and never saw it come back.

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What would you say to somebody who tells you

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what you saw was probably a meteor?

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What would you tell them why it's not?

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No. First of all, it didn't travel like a meteor.

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I've seen meteors here.

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Every once in a while, we have one.

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This was not a meteor.

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I called Spokane International Airport,

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and I asked them if they had anything going on.

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They didn't. I called the Air Force Base there

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and asked them if they had any.

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Of course, they wouldn't tell me anyway.

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Sheriff's Office didn't know anything about it,

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so I don't know.

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But what the heck was it doing?

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We just don't know.

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The fire wall craft, which I have seen,

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are brilliant, beautiful, bright orange.

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They are absolutely stunning.

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These type craft, if they were high enough,

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would look like a meteorite.

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Absolutely massive, totally silent.

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They're not using solar power.

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Their technology is nothing like ours.

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This area of Idaho is pretty unique,

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as I've been kind of looking into it.

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You have a very deep lake here.

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I've heard it's pretty deep.

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It's over a thousand feet, yeah.

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Over a thousand feet?

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And the Navy also has a research facility here?

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Yeah, at the south end of the lake,

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they work on submarines.

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And they've been there for quite some time, right?

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Yeah, since World War II.

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And because our lake is over a thousand feet deep,

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they can go down into that depth

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and check the quality of the electronics.

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Is it possible that this alien species

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is monitoring the Navy's activity deep underwater,

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or is the Navy monitoring the aliens?

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One thing is for certain,

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the people of this town have reported sightings

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of the star people in this area

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for as long as they can remember.

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Was that the only experience you had

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with seeing this entity?

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I've seen so many of these.

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Ever since I was a child,

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I've been seeing strange things.

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The Numerous Encounters

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of the Numerous Encounters

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Dale has had over the years.

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One night lives on in her nightmares.

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It's about 3 o'clock in the morning,

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and I hear a funny noise in the kitchen.

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And I can't really place what it is.

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The mysterious noise drew closer to the bedroom.

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And the noise is so loud,

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that the mysterious noise

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drew closer to the bedroom.

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This being came out of the kitchen.

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It was a little skinny creature.

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He had great big eyes,

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little tiny mouth.

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I felt fear.

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The description matches that of a star person

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who believed to be able to communicate telepathically.

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And he said he wanted to show me something

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when I come with him, and I didn't want him.

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I started praying, you know,

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that I walked through the valley of the shadow of death.

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And I'm not too sure what to do,

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because it's kind of scary.

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I didn't really want to go with him.

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So I reached over to wake my husband up,

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and as you can see, I have some pretty good nails.

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And I'm actually digging my nails into his arm.

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I couldn't get him to wake up, and that was scary.

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He's not responding at all.

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And I'm trying to wake him up,

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and the beings said, I want you to come with me.

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Next, Dale remembers being in the dark.

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Next, Dale remembers being abducted and taken outside.

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Somehow we got out of the house,

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and he said, I want you to see this lake.

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Why did the star person want to show Dale the lake?

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Was it a warning or a threat?

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It's a question that haunts her to this day.

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When I woke up the next morning,

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my husband looks over at me,

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and he said, what was going on last night?

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And I said, you're not going to believe this.

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And he said, well, I know something happened.

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Look at my arm.

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And he showed me his arm, and he actually had blood

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where I had scratched him hard enough to cause him to bleed.

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And yet it didn't wake him up.

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Dale has seen the star people throughout her life,

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but this was the first time she could recall

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being taken against her will.

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Why do you think this being wanted to take you to this lake?

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I think that they probably do have underwater bases.

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Then and Melissa have encountered sub-aquatic bases before.

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They've always had a base down there.

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Why not?

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This is a perfect place for them to sort of hide out undetected.

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Could Dale's visitors have found a home in Lake Ponderay?

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You've had these very impactful experiences.

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Was that somewhat disturbing?

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I mean, you grabbed onto his arm and made it bleed.

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It was...

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In the past, I always thought it was a dream,

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but this was a whole other ballgame.

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Are Dale's dreams actually repressed memories of abductions

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at the hands of the star people?

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So do you feel that you are conduit for these things?

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Maybe. I don't know.

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I just know that I've been seeing them since I was little.

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My daughter Carolyn is fairly close to here,

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and she and her husband both have had sightings.

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Is there any way Carolyn would want to speak with us?

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Well, I'm sure she would.

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I think you should go and talk to her

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and get some feedback from her as well.

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do you mind showing us kind of out here

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where that object was relatively in the sky,

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where it came in and checked some stuff out?

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Sure, we bet.

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Could you point out to us from the top of the mountain

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to where it traveled to into the water?

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We could see it actually rise up from behind the mountain,

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and when it was at least two, three hundred feet above the mountain,

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it just hovered for a while.

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And then it went straight down and under the water over here.

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Is there something that's unique about this lake,

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like a mineral composition, something about the water?

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I think the main interest that the UFOs would have in here

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would be the submarine testing that's done out of the Navy base

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in the lower section where the lake is over a thousand feet deep.

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The Navy has denied countless requests to find out

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what might be hiding in the murky depths of Lake Ponderay,

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but Ben has another idea.

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Well, I think what I might do is go grab the drone

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and just kind of fly out over that area.

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So why don't you go inside and get warmed up

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and I'll go grab the drone.

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All right.

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All right, you ready?

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I'm ready.

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Just do a quick little systems check.

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Make sure.

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When you're looking at it from the perspective of a craft,

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it's high up there.

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If you were flying around and we're new to the area,

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why would you come right to here?

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I think that there's something we haven't figured out.

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Can you see anything?

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Although there's a weird track out there.

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Is this just an anomaly in the ice formation

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or the entry point to something otherworldly?

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We're barely scratching the surface here.

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Like, there's the military component on the other side of the lake.

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Maybe there's something they're hiding.

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I'm glad that Dale gave us so much information though

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because it sounds like this intrafamilial thing

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in relationship might be a new lead

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and maybe start now with her daughter.

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Let's go talk to Carolyn.

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I didn't actually know what to expect with Dale Snipes.

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She reached out to us with a really amazing story,

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but we opened Pandora's box.

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This being scared her so much

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that she literally dug her nails into her husband's arm

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trying to wake him up.

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We're just in the beginning.

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Like many people in this region,

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Dale's daughter Carolyn has also reported encounters with the star people.

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Is she in danger of being abducted as well?

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Well, now, I mean with her family,

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saying that just about everyone who's had experiences,

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Carolyn seems to be,

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I think the best choice to start with.

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It's interesting to hear her perspective.

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What does she think is going on?

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You know, she's living in this area too.

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How does she feel about it?

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From the minute Ben and Melissa pull up to Carolyn's property,

283
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things are already very strange and disturbing.

284
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Why are there dead animals everywhere?

285
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Nobody knows. It doesn't make sense. It's weird.

286
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Look, they look like somebody just put those animals there.

287
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It does, but they're frozen dead, solid.

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There's a fiber at the end, and it looks like I see two deer ears.

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It's weird.

290
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Is this normal?

291
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It doesn't make any sense to me.

292
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Is this suspicious?

293
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Yeah.

294
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Must be Carolyn.

295
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Yep.

296
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Carolyn, we had such an amazing conversation with your mom,

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and we figured this was the next step in our investigation.

298
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Yeah, so she says that basically the whole family, cousins,

299
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her children being you, you've had sightings,

300
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and different events happen.

301
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I spotted something coming across the mountains back here.

302
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Could you walk us through that whole thing?

303
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In the middle of the afternoon, those were a Confession game.

304
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I happened to spot it,

305
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and it was already pretty much to the north of me.

306
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I thought it was a meteor, but it didn't look quite right.

307
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Meteors usually put off mists coming off the backs.

308
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This was definitely a smoke trail.

309
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There was so much flame.

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It was just totally engulfed.

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It was rounded on the front.

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Couldn't only see a shape under,

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and it was already heading across the top part of the lake.

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I kept blank-lancing at it, and it was moving a pretty good clip.

315
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A little faster than I used to seeing the planes go over,

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when it looked like it was coming low.

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I decided I was just going to come on out this way and see.

318
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Without thinking,

319
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Caroline took off in pursuit of the Fireball UFO.

320
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The last clamps I got of it was backed that way.

321
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I saw it disappear behind the mountains up here,

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and I'm like, gee, I wonder.

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So I went on up there.

324
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As Caroline rounded the bend,

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she suddenly found herself staring down the barrel of a gun.

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There's a couple of military jeeps and four or five armed guys standing there.

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And I'm like, where do they come from?

328
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They weren't there 20 minutes ago.

329
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And I'm like, wow.

330
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And they just glared at me.

331
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And the only thing I could figure is they were following it.

332
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Whatever it was, they knew about it, and they were trying to follow it.

333
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Caroline's near-violent confrontation with an army squadron in the foothills near Pondarré

334
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has her convinced that the Fireball she saw in the sky was no mere meteor.

335
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I don't know why the military would be following a meteor if it was a meteor.

336
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The only thing I could figure is they were following it.

337
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How did that make you feel?

338
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Pretty freaked out.

339
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To this day, I have no idea what that was.

340
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Later on, a couple of people that I know told me that they saw a military truck flatbed come through town with something under a tarp.

341
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And is there a military base nearby?

342
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Fairchild and Spokane.

343
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That's still a good hour and a half.

344
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That's the closest one.

345
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So they must have been tracking it.

346
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Caroline's neighbors have also had recent sightings of Fireball UFOs.

347
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Monday night, we got home about nine o'clock, so we were out late. It was already dark.

348
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I happened to look up and you'd see this ball just all of a sudden lift up and move off to the side.

349
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At first, I thought maybe an asteroid, but then it switched eight directions.

350
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It didn't move regularly.

351
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And my stomach just dropped.

352
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Within 30 seconds, it went up to the 3 a.m. position and back down to the horizon.

353
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At one point, the light got so bright, it almost became like daylight stemming outside.

354
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It eclipsed the light of the moon.

355
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It raised the hair on my arms.

356
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I know at my core that there was something that wasn't human.

357
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You've been in this area all your life and there's tons of strange things that have been happening.

358
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We are on Native American land, is that correct?

359
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Yes. Traditionally, I am from Cherokee.

360
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The Kalispell are one of the main tribes.

361
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I was very fortunate, especially when I was a kid, to be able to talk to a couple elders.

362
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The Kalispell tribe has lived around Lake Pondere since at least the mid-1800s.

363
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Their stories of star people go back generations before that.

364
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The star people are often described as large head, large eyes, small nose, small mouth, no ears.

365
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They're really strange looking ever since the word.

366
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The star people is a concept often referred to by Native Americans and others.

367
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What I hear among Native American people, especially, about the star people is that they are horrific.

368
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I think they have their own agenda. They're not going to tell you what it is.

369
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Did the Kalispell speak about visitors from other worlds?

370
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One of the elders was telling me that there's the rock with the rock drawings on it in the Pondere lake.

371
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And they said that was a marker for a landing area.

372
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The star people have left signposts of their time on Earth.

373
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And their contactees have documented these meetings through either hieroglyphs, pictographs, or cave drawings.

374
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The more notable sites are Egypt and North America.

375
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Do you mind if we kind of maybe walk out to this road and you can kind of point in the direction of where you last saw this thing?

376
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Maybe if I get a drone high enough up we can get a kind of a bird's eye view of where it might have gone?

377
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Yeah.

378
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Alright, why don't you lead the way for us?

379
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So you were coming down that side?

380
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Yep.

381
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And then point out for me kind of the trajectory of where this object was going?

382
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Well, it was coming from that direction down there.

383
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And headed generally in that direction. That's why I came on out because it was heading in the direction toward the dam.

384
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This might be a good place to try and put it up here.

385
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Alright.

386
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Okay.

387
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Okay, so am I going in the right direction here?

388
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Generally, yeah.

389
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My altitude, we're at 300 feet.

390
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We're going to be right back in there.

391
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That's about right back in there?

392
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Yeah, about down the other side.

393
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Right on that ridge there?

394
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Yeah, just behind it.

395
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I come back down, got down to that road down there, and there's two jeeps and four armed military people.

396
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Some folks that live up in there, they told them to evacuate the area.

397
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Wow.

398
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So something was definitely up there.

399
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And they were really mad because they kept them out of there for three days.

400
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For three days?

401
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Yep.

402
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Yeah, so I don't know what the heck's going on, what's going on up there.

403
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Alright.

404
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Could the rock drawings be ancient proof of the existence of star people piloting fireball UFOs in the region?

405
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Carolyn's neighbor owns the land that holds the rock drawings.

406
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She arranges for him to lead Ben and Melissa to them.

407
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Hey, Byron.

408
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Byron, yep.

409
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Ben, nice to meet you.

410
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Hi, Melissa.

411
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Nice to meet you, Melissa.

412
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So, is this land been in your family for quite a while?

413
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Yes, it has.

414
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We're the third generation.

415
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Our family's been here for over 125 years.

416
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So they've known about the Petroclips for all that time?

417
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Oh, yeah.

418
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Okay, well it looks like the sun is just about set, so we have a window of time to get out there.

419
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Do you want to lead the way?

420
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000
Sure.

421
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,000
We'll just go this way.

422
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Alice Bell.

423
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The Indians would camp here all summer, and then they would go back down the river.

424
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Is this a more secluded part of the lake?

425
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Yes.

426
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The only access out to the Petroclips is by water.

427
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Unless you come this way, there's no public access to it.

428
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000
The Petroglyphs lie at the top of a mountain overlooking Lake Ponderay.

429
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Byron guides Ben and Melissa through a remote path that few are able to access due to the treacherous terrain.

430
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But there's a lot of people that come looking for them and never see them, because they're not sure what they're looking for.

431
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Finally, they reach their destination.

432
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000
Down there in that gray, you see that two lines?

433
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Oh, right there.

434
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
Oh!

435
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Could this thousand-year-old etching reveal the key to the star people and Fireball UFO's presence?

436
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000
They're right here on this rock face here.

437
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So I can see down here pretty clearly.

438
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000
They almost look like spacecraft or some of the craft we've seen.

439
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Lycan grows less than one millimeter per year, which means these glyphs are hundreds, if not thousands, of years old.

440
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Were the callus bells seeing UFOs in the sky here centuries ago, and then carving their likeness into the rock?

441
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They're a lot bigger than I thought they would be.

442
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,000
It seems pretty consistent. The whole wall is just covered with them.

443
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000
Yeah.

444
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What do you remember the stories behind these petrocliffs?

445
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,000
The Native Americans came here, traveled in from the callus bell area, and some were here.

446
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:10,000
So how many generations did it take? Was it in 10 years or was it in 300 years?

447
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Well, it was obviously a point of real significance for them to keep coming back here.

448
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If you think of a lot of these involving extraterrestrials, this is an important site for them.

449
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,000
Or maybe interacting with man, and this was kind of the point.

450
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:36,000
You know, I always think that these places all over the world that are either temples or pyramids or special places that have markings,

451
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something happened here, and they're marking it, and they want generations to come back and understand what happened.

452
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Like, they want it to be found. I mean, it's a prominent place. It's on the shores of the lake.

453
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The petroglyphs suggest the callus bell have had long-standing contact with the star people.

454
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,000
Could this site commemorate a historic moment in their relationship?

455
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,000
You lived here most of your life. Do you find this place to be unique?

456
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
There's no place else like this.

457
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Uh-huh.

458
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,000
After you spoke to Carolyn, it seemed like a good idea to physically come out here and see these petroglyphs.

459
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:19,000
For some reason, this spot was a point of interest and importance to the Native Americans.

460
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:27,000
And I think if there was anything strange, they wanted to be able to maybe record a history of whatever took place there.

461
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The ancient etchings have led to more questions.

462
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Ben and Melissa decide to pay a visit to the local historical society.

463
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,000
Those pictographs, like, what's been happening here?

464
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Gosh, I guess anything is possible.

465
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I feel like the historical society is really going to give us that back where we keep asking people about.

466
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Uh-huh.

467
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000
There's all this evidence of everything that we've talked about so far, right?

468
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Dale's story, Carolyn's story, those carvings in the stone.

469
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000
All these things, hopefully, have been documented by other people.

470
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Maybe we could kind of go through the archives there and see what they've got.

471
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Then shed some light on what's been happening here.

472
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There it is, historic society.

473
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With the help of director Heather Upton, Ben scours the archives for background on the petroglyphs.

474
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Here's some files here.

475
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I've pulled the petroglyphs, documents that we have.

476
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Apparently, there's seven different sites of these petroglyphs.

477
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Cool.

478
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
That's awesome.

479
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,000
And also, not two showing rock writing.

480
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I'm looking for a definition of what the symbols might mean, you know?

481
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
There's no accurate way to interpret them.

482
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
10,000 to 13,000 years old.

483
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
This is good. I need this.

484
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,000
I think I should pull some maps out for you as well.

485
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
What's this?

486
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Heather has uncovered a map that could change the course of the investigation.

487
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Everyone needs a mystery map.

488
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
There's a little guide here for the sightings.

489
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,000
So, for the blue, it's all like the weird unexplainable action that happened on like Pondray.

490
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Like UFO sightings?

491
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Yeah.

492
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Actually, most of it was from the calisthenics.

493
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:36,000
The lost map appears to show UFO sightings documented by locals over the decades.

494
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While Ben examines the map, the historical society connects Melissa to Sonia Grace,

495
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:50,000
an indigenous scholar and UFO researcher of Choctaw and Cherokee descent.

496
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Hey, Sonia. Thanks for taking the time to speak with me today.

497
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:04,000
I really want to understand, could there have been experiences with UFOs and other worldly beings going on for thousands of years here?

498
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:13,000
I will say that Native American people across the country have experienced UFOs and aliens.

499
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Where you are, I found that there is a group of aliens that have visited that part of Idaho for a long time.

500
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,000
The Calisbell people called those little beings star seekers.

501
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Interesting.

502
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:39,000
There are these small white alien beings that have been visiting there since 10,000 years ago.

503
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,000
That's really interesting that they would call themselves star seekers. You've heard of star people, right?

504
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,000
It's the same idea, right? Star people, star beings, star seeker.

505
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Sonia's description of the star seekers is eerily similar to the beings Dale encountered.

506
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,000
What do you think their motivation is? I mean, they don't sound friendly.

507
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,000
I believe some of them actually are trying to take over. They have an agenda.

508
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,000
They want water. They want resources. They lost their planet. They're losing their people.

509
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,000
They need to regenerate. They want to create hybrids.

510
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:28,000
If what Sonia is saying is true, could it be possible that the star people are abducting humans as part of a human alien hybridization program?

511
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:35,000
There are aliens infiltrating planet Earth right now more than ever.

512
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Do we understand all their technology? Absolutely not. Are they much more advanced than we are? Yes, they are.

513
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:55,000
You know, it's weird because when I'm here, I feel like something is watching us always. It's a very strange feeling.

514
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:05,000
What people are experiencing, Melissa, where you are and in many parts of the world is a very strong alien presence.

515
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:13,000
On my reservation, we see these glowing orbs of light every night.

516
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:23,000
According to tribal accounts, star people sightings have nearly doubled in the last 50 years.

517
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:33,000
There's enough UFO sightings every day that it cannot be ignored. And we all need to be very conscious of this.

518
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Are the people of Northern Idaho in danger of being abducted like Jerry Julian and Dale and Carolyn Snipes?

519
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:47,000
What'd you find? A lot. Looks like it. How did your call go?

520
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:59,000
So Sonya believes that otherworldly beings, lights, she called them star seekers, have been in touch in this area for 10,000 years.

521
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Well, that's interesting because when I pull out some stuff about the petroglyphs, they could be up to 10,000 years old, they said.

522
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:13,000
The scope of activity has inspired Ben to dig deeper. What he's uncovered is shocking.

523
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Then we have the sightings. There's so many. I didn't realize how many there have actually been.

524
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Heather finds this map. It's actually labeled a mystery map.

525
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Oddly enough, there's a sighting map.

526
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:39,000
The map shows the region's numerous UFO sightings, but Ben has found articles of encounters with fireball UFOs that shed more light on their nature.

527
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Let me show you the mysteries involved here. December 5, 1948.

528
00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:02,000
On a routine flight from Fairchild Air Force Base in Spokane, the pilot had a close call that almost cost him his life.

529
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,000
The authorities recorded the pilot's account of events.

530
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:18,000
It was a normal flight, but then I saw, I don't know, this large ball of fire flashing across the sky.

531
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Fireball. We get that description a lot.

532
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:34,000
At first, I thought it was a meteor, and I radioed it in, but then it did the damnedest thing. It started moving upward.

533
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:42,000
I'm telling you, my blood ran cold. I didn't know what I was looking at.

534
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Then, my head started ringing. It hurt like hell. I thought I was gonna die.

535
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:55,000
I never seen anything move like the fireball in front of me.

536
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Then, all of a sudden, it just disappeared.

537
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Radio control operators state that not moments before a second sighting was reported by a nearby pioneer commercial airline.

538
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:20,000
We were flying to Seattle when I saw a shooting star right in front of us.

539
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Bright light washed over the cockpit, and it changed from one to green.

540
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,000
It started moving right in front of us. We were on a collision course.

541
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000
At the last minute, I tried to change course.

542
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,000
It was as if the pilot of the craft had seen us and wanted to avoid us.

543
00:36:53,000 --> 00:37:00,000
It pulled up with a tremendous burst of flame out of its rear and zoomed up into the clouds.

544
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,000
When the UFO moved from one place to another, it left a vapor.

545
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Remember what Carolyn said? It was a smoke.

546
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Yeah, that's really strange. Considering that, instance is on the front page.

547
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Both pilots were later contacted and interviewed about the incident by, oh, look at this, quote, intelligence officers

548
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
who didn't identify themselves.

549
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
But the sightings didn't stop there.

550
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Going through the 70s, there are so many UFO sightings.

551
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Well, in the 79, dozens of persons, including several law enforcement officials reported seeing four to six unidentified flying objects.

552
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Other individuals who contacted law enforcement reported seeing fire trails move easterly,

553
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000
adding that it appeared to travel at a high rate of speed.

554
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:56,000
It crossed about 10 miles in 40 seconds before it receded.

555
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Wow. This is right in that area where they were seeing all of this stuff, whether it was over the lake or in town.

556
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Well, it's such a unique area. I think we've got a wealth of information.

557
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg.

558
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Absolutely.

559
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000
There's so much going on here.

560
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Based on the map Ben found, a high concentration of sightings happened on and around Caroline Abbott's property.

561
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Ben and I decide that the best thing to do right now is to drive up to Caroline's property, where all of this seems to happen.

562
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,000
One of the theorized signs of UFO activity is high levels of radiation.

563
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:44,000
If Ben and Melissa find elevated radiation levels on Caroline's farm, it could be a break in the case.

564
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Hi.

565
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Hi.

566
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,000
I hope you don't mind, but we have some more questions for you.

567
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000
No, not a problem.

568
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,000
We're wondering if there have been any signs of increased radiation here at the farm.

569
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,000
So have any of the animals that you've rescued come back with any weird tumors or cancerous?

570
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,000
We've been having a lot more odd tumors showing up, aggressive tumors.

571
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000
How quickly does it appear?

572
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Just in about a week's.

573
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Really?

574
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Yeah, I mean I've never had this problem. I've been farming and dealing with animals my whole life.

575
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000
What I'd like to do is just kind of do a general survey of the property.

576
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
We've got a Geiger counter, so look for radiation levels.

577
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Let's also grab the EMF meter and maybe take some soil samples.

578
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Great.

579
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000
There we go. Come on. Jojo, come on.

580
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Ben has a Geiger counter. He's going to go around the property and I'm going to kind of follow him with an EMF meter and see if I can get any residue of radiation.

581
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:49,000
UFO experts have long believed that lingering radiation from alien craft could be to blame.

582
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Okay, I'm up and running.

583
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
I'm up and running.

584
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Which direction do you want to go?

585
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Let's round the barn this way.

586
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Crew, if you guys back off just a little bit so that wireless and our mics are minimally affecting that, then that would be good.

587
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Look at the long lens and stuff, if they go deeper.

588
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Let's go this way.

589
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
This place kind of gives me the creeps.

590
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Ben and Melissa sweep the farm, searching for any abnormal radiation levels or electronic activity.

591
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:32,000
If the Geiger counter or EMF detects anything, it could mean Carolyn's property is a hotspot for returning visitors.

592
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Okay, so far I'm in normal radiation background range.

593
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000
It's like 0.14 which is very normal.

594
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,000
This work, it's really thick back in here.

595
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,000
I'm picking up something here.

596
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,000
As Melissa gets closer to the barn, she continues to get unusually high readings.

597
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000
I get these weird jumps over here.

598
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Oh my god.

599
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:25,000
The radiation levels on Carolyn's property only seem to be getting stronger.

600
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
I don't know if there's something by the barn.

601
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Ben's Geiger counter is starting to hit too.

602
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:50,000
I've got something here.

603
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
This would be a good place to take a soil sample.

604
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Okay.

605
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,000
You want to drill?

606
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Yep.

607
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Okay, ready?

608
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Yep.

609
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,000
There you go.

610
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Okay, one more.

611
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Let's fill it up.

612
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,000
I don't know if there is something to do with the ground and the area.

613
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Is it just the farm specifically or is it this whole area or is it all of the northern part of Idaho?

614
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000
So we have two samples from this area.

615
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Okay, well I think this is about all we can do here.

616
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
A lot of animals.

617
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,000
I think it's highly unusual that there's so many animals.

618
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Especially so fast.

619
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Right, she did say geologically this is a really unique area.

620
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
It would be interesting to see what that is.

621
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
And the radiation would be dangerous for humans as well.

622
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Ben and Melissa will send the samples to a lab to test for radiation and unusual chemical composition.

623
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
I hope we can find answers for you.

624
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Well let's keep in touch, okay?

625
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Okay, let's go.

626
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Thank you so much for your time and for showing us around.

627
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000
You betcha.

628
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:10,000
The frequency of sightings in Sand Point, Idaho indicate historic levels of visitations.

629
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000
And the soil results confirm higher than average radiation levels.

630
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Soil samples will show something that is causing an effect on the animals.

631
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Is that because the people and the animals are being visited by these other worldly beings

632
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000
and they're getting sick from the radiation of the visitations?

633
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Not only are the animals on Carolyn's farm getting sick at an above average rate,

634
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,000
cancer rates for humans in this area are higher than the rest of the state.

635
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Could this be due to increased radiation from the fireball UFO?

636
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:53,000
I think we can walk away with this saying that we have observed a definite pattern happening, right?

637
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
The fireball phenomena is common here.

638
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Right.

639
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Indigenous cultures, you know, from thousands of years calling the beings that have been coming here to start people.

640
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
What could they want with this area?

641
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,000
I almost feel like we have more questions than any of them.

642
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,000
There is something that seems like generational, you know, going on in the sightings,

643
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,000
because this has been going on perhaps for thousands of years.

644
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Ben and Melissa have uncovered accounts of shapeshifters by our military facilities.

645
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Glowing orbs over New England, USO's off Southern California,

646
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,000
and now fireballs on the Northwest with different types of fireballs.

647
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Next on UFO Witness, Ben and Melissa's investigation points to claims of a massive alien plot of human experimentation.

648
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000
It passed over us, just radiating this bright white light.

649
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,000
That was definitely not anything I've ever seen.

650
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000
I think we can go back to the beginning of the war,

651
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:57,000
and we can see that there is a huge difference in the number of people that have been coming here.

652
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000
It passed over us, just radiating this bright white light.

653
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000
That was definitely not anything I've ever seen.

654
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:12,000
And witnesses point to advanced tic-tac ships and a cold and calculating race of aliens known as the Greys.

655
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000
I was being used as an incubator.

656
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Why would aliens experiment on humans?

657
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,000
There's no fetus, there's no nothing.

658
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
you